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New York Times best-selling author Janet Evanovich is a busy lady, publishing at least a book a year (and usually more) in her mega-successful Stephanie Plum, Alex Barnaby and Diesel & Tucker series. The latest Plum adventure, Smokin’ Seventeen, is on sale in hardcover this month, and the last Plum novel, Sizzling Sixteen, is available in mass market paperback. Evanovich graciously chatted with BookPage about reading, writing and birthday cake. 

You have written romance novels, mystery novels, short stories and nonfiction. What’s your favorite kind of book to write? To read?
I like adventure novels with a little romantic comedy in the mix. 

You’ve turned your success into a family business, with your son keeping track of the financial matters and your daughter doing almost everything else at “Evanovich, Inc.” What do you say to people who think you shouldn’t mix family and business?
I suppose mixing family and business isn’t for everyone, but it works for us. We all have very different talents and we try not to step on each other’s toes. If there’s a choice to be made it’s family first and business second.

After 16 (and about to be 17!) books, Stephanie Plum has become an iconic figure in mystery fiction. Where did you get the inspiration for her character?
The initial inspiration was monetary. I needed a new roof on my house. 🙂 Truth is Stephanie is a mix of me and my daughter Alex plus a few traits that are pure fiction.

We last saw Stephanie Plum in Sizzling Sixteen. What do we have to look forward to in Smokin’ Seventeen
Stephanie gets romantic with the two men in her life and dead bodies keep turning up in the lot destined to house a new bail bonds office.

Plum will make her big screen debut in a film version of One for the Money, slated to hit theaters in 2012. Can you share any behind-the-scenes movie scoop?
Sorry, no behind-the-scenes scoops.

What’s next for Stephanie Plum?For you?
I’m currently working on Plum Eighteen and the next book in the new Diesel series.

Plum becomes a bounty hunter when she loses her job as a lingerie buyer. What would you do if you weren’t a writer?
I’d sell ebleskivers [Danish pancakes] out of a food truck.

We’ve heard you have a bit of a sweet tooth. If you had to choose just one dessert, would it be cake, pie or something chocolatey? 
Birthday cake!

New York Times best-selling author Janet Evanovich is a busy lady, publishing at least a book a year (and usually more) in her mega-successful Stephanie Plum, Alex Barnaby and Diesel & Tucker series. The latest Plum adventure, Smokin’ Seventeen, is on sale in hardcover this…

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With 40 New York Times bestsellers and 60 million copies of her books in print worldwide, romance author Jude Deveraux is a force to be reckoned with. She took time out of her busy schedule to talk with BookPage about inspiration, her writing process and whom she’d like to be stranded with on a desert island.

You are the best-selling author of both historical and contemporary romances. Where do you find your inspiration? How do you decide what type of novel you want to write next?
Everything I do, hear, see—I think, how can I use that in a book? Sometimes an event will inspire me, sometimes a personality trait will make me think of building a character around it. I often think, I’d like to write a book about . . . fill in the blank. As for time period, that’s chosen by the idea. When I find something I want to write about, it always has a time period attached to it. I read something about a man going into the wilds of Florida to paint the flora and fauna. That interested me so I thought I’d use it in a book. That it was to be historical was a given. It turned out to be The Scent of Jasmine.

What kind of research do you do for your historical novels? How do you keep all the characters in your Edilean Series straight? There are so many!
Whenever I do an historical, I usually spend about a month doing specific research on whatever is the basis for the novel. I buy several books about the subject and read them with note cards in my hands. I use a genealogy software to keep my Edilean characters straight. Since I’m not good with numbers, it’s difficult for me to figure out the dates of when people were born and had babies. But the software checks me on my dates and tells me when I have a couple of 10-year-olds as parents. I realized right away that unless my characters were to marry cousins I had to bring in newcomers. It’s nice for me to know about things like who owns the local grocery, whose ancestor was devious and whose was a hero.

In Scarlet Nights, an undercover investigator climbs through the trapdoor of Sara Shaw’s apartment—and sparks begin to fly. If you could choose any hero to show up at your house, who would it be?
Captain Sir Richard Francis Burton. He was a Victorian explorer. I’ve read umpteen bios about him and am deeply in love with him. Just the mention of his name makes my heart flutter. That he lived over 100 years ago has never seemed to matter to me. A wonderful, intelligent, heroic man!

Do you have a favorite couple from literature, movies or life?
I like all the real-life couples I meet who have been married 30-some years and still like each other. I envy them so very much!

If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one fictional character, who would you want it to be?
I’m tempted to say, “A boat builder,” but that’s too easy. I recently wrote a book called The End of Summer, and the hero of it, Dr. Tristan Aldredge, is the nicest, sweetest man I’ve ever written about. I usually start out with people who have been hurt in some way. Working through their problems gives me a plot. But Tristan was just plain sweet. He inspired love in people wherever he went. It didn’t hurt that he was so beautiful that women drew in their breath when they saw him, but that was beside the point. Dr. Tris was funny, creative and gentle. I could stand to spend some time with him in real life.

What’s next for you?
I have a bit more to write on the second book of a trilogy set in Edilean. When these are finished, I’m going to start a new series. Funny things have happened with these three books. The father of my first heroine was just supposed to move the story forward, but Joe Layton turned out to be bigger than life. I’ve taken him into Book Two and given him someone to love. I had the hero for Book Three planned from the beginning, but the brother of the heroine of Book Two is so angry that I may give him Sophie to straighten him out. I would love to give the titles to these books but I don’t have any. I can write a book much, much easier than I can come up with a title. If any of you have title ideas, please go onto my website and tell me. If I use it, I’ll dedicate the book to you.

 

With 40 New York Times bestsellers and 60 million copies of her books in print worldwide, romance author Jude Deveraux is a force to be reckoned with. She took time out of her busy schedule to talk with BookPage about inspiration, her writing process and…

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Best-selling YA author Maureen Johnson doesn’t believe in ghosts. In fact, when people try to tell her a ghost story—even a good one—she just isn’t interested. So it seems a bit ironic that her new novel can best be described as, well, a very clever ghost story. 

On a transatlantic phone call from her second home in Guildford, England (she splits her time between New York City and Guildford, where her English boyfriend lives), Johnson explains how she got the idea for her latest book, The Name of the Star. “I was in London doing some research for [my previous novel] The Last Little Blue Envelope on a historical tour. They kept mentioning ghosts, and I kept thinking, ‘These ghosts are not very good at what they do.’ The ghost is always a cold spot in the room or a shadow; it moves a spoon, or a door creaks. And I thought, what you should have is a ghost that comes back and it’s totally insane and kills everyone! Now that would be something! Then I would sit up and listen to your ghost story.” 

Johnson considered what kind of person you really wouldn’t want to come back from the dead—and almost immediately she thought of Jack the Ripper, the infamous serial killer who terrorized London in the late 1880s. Once she had her idea, Johnson was off and running. 

The first novel in a planned trilogy, The Name of the Star is inventive, fast-paced and compelling. We meet plucky Louisiana teen Aurora “Rory” Deveaux as she arrives at Wexford, an elite boarding school in London. There has been disturbing news of a local murder, but Rory is too consumed with adjusting to life at Wexford to focus on the slaying. She quickly makes friends with her roommate, Jazza, and starts a flirtation with Jerome, one of the class prefects. Things seem to be going well for Rory—until another woman turns up dead behind a local pub, and police fear they have a Jack the Ripper copycat on their hands. 

Johnson says the historical material surrounding the Ripper crimes provided the obvious structure for her story. “I wanted the book to be heavier on the school stuff in the beginning so you would think it was going to be more of a school story,” she explains. “I wanted Rory to get taken out of that world, that you have some idea that her life had been normal—and now it isn’t.”

Normality ends for Rory on the night she sees a suspicious man in the Wexford quad hours before another murder takes place nearby—a man no one else saw. With the guidance of a mysterious new roommate, Rory realizes that she has the ability to see ghosts, and that she just might be the ghost killer’s next victim. Luckily Rory isn’t alone in her struggle—she learns there is a secret ghost police force tracking the killer along with the London police, but she certainly can’t admit that to any of her friends. And so Rory goes from being a typical high school student to a teen on the run from what she thought she knew about herself, the world and the dark forces working against her.

To say much more would ruin the fun of reading Johnson’s spooky novel, but teen readers with an interest in history, mystery and supernatural stories will find much to savor in The Name of the Star

Johnson says she wanted Rory to come from a town near New Orleans because the Crescent City “has a long history of very eccentric behavior.” With a laugh, she explains, “Some of the most interesting people I have ever met come from New Orleans. And I wanted Rory to have an interesting background. Her family is loosely based on my own family and neighbors, except I think that mine are probably weirder. So Rory is in many ways a filter for me to talk about my relatives.” 

Whether she’s channeling her own relatives or not, what’s most striking about Johnson’s writing is her ability to completely inhabit her characters’ voices. Rory, Jazza, Jerome and their friends leap off the page, and readers will be continuously surprised and entertained by their misadventures. About writing from the teen perspective, Johnson admits, “It’s not that I have a particularly teenage mindset. The only thing I do is try to think, what would this be like if you haven’t done it before? The main thing that’s different about being a teenager is that you’re experiencing a lot of things for the first time—that’s the most important logic.”

When asked what Rory will experience in the second book, slated for release in fall 2012, Johnson will only say, “Rory is having to cope with the aftermath of all the things that happened to her. Sometimes in supernatural stories you don’t give people enough time to have the complete nervous breakdown. So she’s in therapy, but she can’t talk about what really happened, so therapy’s a joke. Rory has a complicated life. And things are going to get more complicated.”

Luckily, complications—in Johnson’s capable and creative hands—are something to eagerly anticipate.

 

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Beth Kephart is one of those enviable people whose talent seems limitless. She is a prolific writer—of YA novels, memoirs and nonfiction. Her first book, the memoir A Slant of Sun, was a finalist for the National Book Award.

She teaches at the University of Pennsylvania, reviews books frequently for publications like the Chicago Tribune and has a passion for photography. And she holds a day job running a boutique marketing and communications firm.

When we meet on a sunny summer day at a quaint coffee shop near Kephart’s home in Devon, Pennsylvania, I ask her how on earth she has time to do so many things at once. With a smile, she explains, “I don’t sleep much, obviously. I wish I slept more and I want to sleep more. But I am so passionate about words and about story that it’s just hard to stop myself. When there is a story percolating, when there is an opportunity to do something with language, I’m unstoppable.”

Indeed she is. Over limeade (hers) and a latte (mine), we spend an afternoon discussing Kephart’s 14th book, the mesmerizing teen novel Small Damages. It’s the story of Kenzie, a 17-year-old American who is sent to Spain to wait out a surprise pregnancy before giving her baby up for adoption—a plan her mother has concocted to save face in their suburban Philadelphia town. Kenzie is not happy about the move; it will take her away from her home, her friends and the father of her baby, Kevin. But she agrees to go abroad, relieved to escape her mother’s judgment and have some space to contemplate the difficult journey ahead of her.

While the plot of Small Damages may sound sensational, Kenzie’s pregnancy and plans for adoption are only part of the story. As Kephart tells me, “This is not a political novel. But it is a novel about making choices and about not judging either way. It never occurred to me that I was writing a book about a pregnant teen. It was just a story that had to be written.”

An American teen sent to Spain to wait out a surprise pregnancy finds a new sense of family and belonging.

When Kenzie arrives in Spain, she is immediately struck by the beauty of the landscape and the richness of the culture all around her. She travels from Seville to a bull ranch outside of town, where she will serve as a cook’s assistant. Filling out Kephart’s story is a cast of unforgettable characters. There is Miguel, who trains bulls on Los Nietos, the ranch where Kenzie stays; Estela, the “queen” of the ranch who encourages Kenzie to master the art of Spanish cooking; Luis, Estela’s long-lost love; Esteban, a mysterious young ranch hand with whom Kenzie strikes up an unlikely flirtation; and a roaming band of gypsies.

Kephart’s descriptions of Spain—the scenery, the food, the people and the history—bring the story to life. It’s remarkable how much Kephart can say in so few words, and while the novel moves quickly, certain passages beg to be reread and savored.

The inspiration for Small Damages came from Kephart’s own travels through Spain, though the novel took her more than 10 years to write. “It wasn’t the direct line that many of my stories have been,” she says. The novel originally began as a book for adults, but after conversations with her son, Jeremy, Kephart decided to focus on Kenzie—and her relationship with Estela.

“I’m always interested in inserting the wise older person into my books for young adults. I think there’s so much to learn. I wanted someone who had the Spanish Civil War experience. I wanted it not to be a history lesson, but a reminder of what people have gone through and what they have to give up—and the lessons that they try to pass on to those they truly love. Once I discovered Kenzie as a character, Estela developed, because it is the tension between them that truly defines them.”

As Kenzie spends more time on the ranch, she grows to love—and feel truly loved by—the people around her. Estela transforms from a brash taskmaster into a wise, supportive presence, encouraging Kenzie to listen to her heart and live a life without regrets. She shares her story with Kenzie—a story of love and loss in the time of the Spanish Civil War—and gives Kenzie a perspective on family and belonging that she had been missing. When she thinks about the baby growing inside of her, Kenzie thinks about her father, who has recently passed away, and she begins to question her mother’s plan to give the child up for adoption.

While Small Damages is a book for teens, it is a novel that adults will enjoy, too. Of this crossover, Kephart says, “When I took the leap [to write YA] I said I will never write down, I will never do anything other than honor the intelligence of young readers. I’ve had the privilege of spending time with them and I know how smart they are. I write with great respect for their intelligence. I think that’s also why my books get carried forward to the adult reading world.”

No matter the audience, there is one thing Kephart hopes readers take away from her novel: not to judge others. Of her protagonist, she says, “Kenzie is very loving, intelligent, moral. She is in a situation. I think no less of her and I don’t want my readers to think any less of her.” Kephart speaks with such compassion for her characters and such passion for her work that it’s hard not to be inspired by such an unassuming, accomplished woman. Of her career, she reflects, “I never want to look back and say, ‘Well, my best book was my first one or my fifth or my seventh,’ so I’m highly motivated to not just slide. I try to break form or go to a new place in the world or tell a story that hasn’t been told before. I’m invested in challenging myself and going to the verge or taking the risk.”

Small Damages is a book well worth the risk. Kephart has created a lyrical, beautiful story about a young woman at a turning point, struggling to reconcile her choices, find her place in the world and discover the true meaning of family.

Beth Kephart is one of those enviable people whose talent seems limitless. She is a prolific writer—of YA novels, memoirs and nonfiction. Her first book, the memoir A Slant of Sun, was a finalist for the National Book Award.

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British author Jojo Moyes has written her fair share of complicated relationships—war brides, illicit affairs, a widow being stalked by her neighbor—but in her 10th novel, Me Before You, she introduces her most intriguing couple yet. Will Traynor is a former finance whiz and daredevil who was paralyzed after being hit by a car on a rainy day. Louisa Clark is a former coffeeshop clerk who becomes his caregiver. After a rocky start, the two develop a deep and life-changing relationship. We asked the London-born author (who now lives with her family on a farm in the countryside) a few questions about the new novel and its memorable characters.

Louisa and Will are complicated, multilayered characters. Did you always know they would fall for each other?
Unusually for me—I've written 10 books—Lou and Will were both crystal clear in my head before I even started the book. I knew them inside out. That meant that all I had to do was to put them in different situations and sit back and see what happened. It meant that the book was actually a pleasure to write. And their growing feelings for each other felt entirely natural. I wish it happened like that more often!

There are a lot of humorous moments in Me Before You, but the novel deals with some very serious, heavy topics. How did you balance the gravity of Will’s condition with the humor in the novel?
I knew when I started writing this book that it had the potential to be quite bleak and dark, so I knew it had to be leavened with a lot of humor. It was a bit nerve-wracking balancing the two without making a serious subject lightweight, so it's been very gratifying that it's been received as well as it has.

What kind of research did you do for the book?
I did a lot of reading, and I read a lot of newspapers. Assisted suicide has been a huge issue in the U.K. so there was a lot of material. As for the quadriplegics, I spent time on a lot of chatrooms for quads and their carers, I asked questions, and I watched a lot of YouTube videos that they put up about their daily lives. But when I was writing it I had two people close to me who required 24-hour care, so I was already familiar with a lot of the routines and efforts needed. The carrot-feeding scene, for example, came from something I had done.

"I also wanted to show how an accident like this—and a decision like this—sends ripples way out into the lives of other people around him."

How important was the setting of Me Before You? What does the village add to the story?
The village—with its class divisions—makes explicit the huge divide between Will and Lou. I found after I moved out of London that the divides do still exist in English village life in a way I hadn't expected. There is usually quite a gap between the Big House in any village, where a family may have lived for generations, and those who live in the workmen's cottages or council houses. But I didn't want the reader to see Will purely as an object of pity, so it was important that he had some advantages—and money and background were two of these.

There are only a few pages of the book devoted to Will’s “former life” in the present tense; the rest is told through memories or flashbacks. How did you decide to structure the story this way?
Even though only a short part of the book is devoted to Will's “former” life, I thought it was important to give a hint of what he had lost—and who he was before. It is easy to see the severely disabled as “other”—and I wanted to emphasize that he was just like anyone else—albeit probably wealthier and better looking! But also, it's just a tight little story with a small cast, set over six months. I didn't want it to sprawl, like some of my other books—I wanted that sense of urgency.

Most of Me Before You is told from Louisa’s point of view, but there are sections from the perspective of Mr. and Mrs. Traynor, Treena and even Will’s professional caregiver Nathan. Yet there is no section from Will’s point of view. How did you come to that decision?
It was mainly for structural reasons. I couldn't let the reader inside Will's head early on, or it would have spoiled the twists for the reader, and the tension that comes from not knowing quite what was going on. However, I also wanted to show how an accident like this—and a decision like this—sends ripples way out into the lives of other people around him.

For some, the ending of Me Before You will come as a shock. If it's possible to explain without giving too much away, why did you decide to end the book the way you did?
I agonized about the ending. I changed my mind at least twice, and even considered writing a book with two endings—and allow the reader to choose. Ultimately, I wrote the ending that I felt was true to the characters.

Please tell us you’ve been to Mauritius. How did you choose this tropical location as the vacation spot for Will, Lou and Nathan?
I did go to Mauritius! And it was one of the most beautiful places I've ever been. I have travelled to a lot of places, but it felt like the most suitable place in terms of the attitudes of the population, who seem to have an inbuilt grace, and the idea of a paradise island where Lou could feel she and Will were isolated and protected for a little while.

Before transitioning to writing novels full time, you were a journalist for many years. Did you always know you wanted to be a novelist? How did your background in newspapers help you prepare for your current career?
I wrote stories from a young age—my mother's attic is full of old exercise books full of long handwritten stories about amazing young girls and their telepathic ponies—but it was when I was working nights that I really started trying to write novels. Working in newspapers helped me in lots of ways: It teaches you to work to a deadline, to pick out what is important in a story, to think about your use of language. Mostly it teaches you to listen, and to find stories all around you.

Speaking of stories, where do you look for inspiration?
I’m usually inspired by something I overhear or see. Me Before You was inspired by a news story I heard on the radio about a young quadriplegic who persuaded his parents to help him end his life. The Last Letter From Your Lover, the book I wrote before that, came after I overheard a group of women trying to decipher a text message on a mobile phone. I don't make whole books out of the one element, but it usually triggers of a chain of thoughts, or ties in with other ideas that I've been working on.

You’ve built quite a following, both in England and the U.S. What writers do you most admire and why?
Oh it changes week to week. This year I have loved Gillian Flynn's Gone Girl, Maria Semple's Where'd You Go, Bernadette, and Andrew Miller's Pure. I love Kate Atkinson consistently, and I'm also a sucker for George R.R. Martin's Game of Thrones series.

What can we expect from you next?
I've just had another book out in the U.K., The Girl You Left Behind, which is an epic love story that begins in Occupied France in 1916 and ends with a court case in the modern day. And right now I'm working on something a little more like Me Before You—a road trip between a single mother and her children, and the man whose house she cleans. But nothing is quite as it seems. . .

 

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When Pat Conroy died in March at the age of 70, the literary community lost one of its most prolific and beloved voices. Perhaps best known for The Great Santini and The Prince of Tides, Conroy was the author of six novels, four memoirs and one cookbook—all written with great heart, an insatiable curiosity about human nature and a deep reverence for the South that raised him.

But Conroy wasn’t satisfied with 11 books under his belt. Just two years before his death, he reflected, “I believe I’ve got two long novels and three short ones still in me. But my health has to cooperate, and I need to pay more attention to my health. It is not long life I wish for—it is to complete what I have to say about the world I found around me from boyhood to old age.”

As heartbreaking as it is to know that Conroy didn’t get to share those stories with the world, his unmistakable voice comes through loud and clear in A Lowcountry Heart: Reflections on a Writing Life. A charming collection of Conroy’s letters, interviews, magazine articles and speeches, A Lowcountry Heart is a true gift to his legions of fans. 

Conroy speaks directly to his readers in a series of reproduced blog posts, always opening with “Hey, out there” and ending with “Great love.” He writes about books he’s reading, writers he admires, the big things going on in his life (including a 70th birthday celebration thrown by the University of South Carolina) and the little things on his mind (trying to get in shape). The Conroy that emerges from these pages is the one we’ve read and admired for decades: honest, effusive, passionate, funny and downright lovable. And that’s precisely the man he was.  


Pat Conroy in his final author photo.

Speaking from her home in Beaufort, South Carolina, Conroy’s widow, Cassandra King, explains, “Pat is the friendliest person who’s ever lived. He just had such charisma, and he was one of these folks that you felt like you’d known your whole life. Even if you met him for a few minutes, he was so personable and so easy to talk to. . . . And I swear to god, he talked exactly the way he wrote. I think that’s why so many of us felt like we knew him. His books were just him.” 

A novelist herself and Conroy’s wife of 20 years, King was one of the driving forces behind A Lowcountry Heart. “After Pat died, it really began to hit us that this was it, and there weren’t going to be any more of these beautiful, wonderful books. And you know, it broke my heart,” she recalls. “It still breaks my heart that he didn’t finish the book he was working on. So it sort of became a mission to collect any of his handwritten notes to see what was left and where.” 

Conroy handwrote everything—a pretty amazing feat considering the length of some of his more popular works. When he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in February, he was 200 pages into a new novel. Set in the 1960s, the novel is based on four young men teaching high school and forming lifelong friendships. King says with a laugh, “I take full credit for this book. Not really, I’m teasing. [But] over the years [Pat] would tell me these great stories. Right out of college, he taught at Beaufort High School . . . with three other young men. He would tell me that none of them knew what they were doing and they would sneak down to each other’s rooms and say, ‘Hey, you got any lesson plans?’ Every time he would tell me one of these stories, I would say, ‘Pat, you’ve got to make that into a book. This is your male friendship book.’ ”

In a note at the beginning of the new collection, Conroy’s longtime editor, Nan A. Talese, writes, “We are still searching his journals for more on this novel, and at some point we may have something to share with you.” In the meantime, Conroy readers can find a different, more personal side of the author in A Lowcountry Heart

“[It] brings me some comfort to know that this book is out there,” his widow says, sure that Conroy would be proud of the work done to assemble the collection.

Conroy would also be proud of the efforts by King and friends to open The Pat Conroy Literary Center, a “passionate and inclusive reading and writing community” in Beaufort that will honor one of the greatest joys of Conroy’s life: championing other writers. As King explains, “We’re doing this as a living legacy to Pat. . . . He was so encouraging to other writers. He got involved with Story River Books [an imprint of the University of South Carolina Press] and he loved doing that. So I’d just want anyone who has ever loved Pat Conroy’s writings to come see this once we get running. Hopefully it will be the beginning of [next] year.”

The last few pages of A Lowcountry Heart are remembrances from friends, who describe Conroy’s passion, wisdom and devotion to the people he loved. As King notes, “He was certainly larger than life. Everything about him. He came into a room and he filled up the room, he had that charisma. So when he loved, he loved—his friends and their kids, they were the greatest, they were the best in the world.” 

Laughing, she adds, “His whole life was hyperbole. If he didn’t like you, you were the most horrible person that ever lived. It worked both ways.” 

King says Conroy truly loved writing, and because he wrote everything by hand, he took the time to think things through before he put pen to paper. She says, “There’s a great picture of him where he’s sitting thinking at the [writing] desk, and that’s how I think about him. He was so often just absorbed in what he was doing.”

It seems that’s how we should all remember the great Conroy—immersed in the worlds he was creating for his devoted readers, writing the stories he was born to tell. 

 

This article was originally published in the December 2016 issue of BookPage. Download the entire issue for the Kindle or Nook.

When Pat Conroy died in March at the age of 70, the literary community lost one of its most prolific and beloved voices. Perhaps best known for The Great Santini and The Prince of Tides, Conroy was the author of six novels, four memoirs and one cookbook—all written with great heart, an insatiable curiosity about human nature and a deep reverence for the South that raised him.
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The fierce, creative women at the heart of Kayla Rae Whitaker’s debut, The Animators, are impossible to forget. Mel and Sharon meet in college, where they share an outsider status thanks to their shared Southern roots. Both are talented artists, and their combined genius brings them together in a life-changing creative partnership and friendship.

We asked Whitaker a few questions about this page-turner of a first novel.

Mel and Sharon are an incredible illustration of deep and true friendship. What do you think drew Mel to Sharon and Sharon to Mel?
I think Sharon’s and Mel’s friendship began like a lot of friendships begin: They saw themselves in each other, and felt at home with one another, but they also saw in the other traits to which they aspired. We have Sharon, who is drawn to Mel initially because of Mel’s work, which she thinks is brilliant. But she probably stays because Mel is, in large part, exciting to be around—flamboyant and impulsive and funny. And charismatic as all hell. The insidious aspect of charisma, however, is how well it can conceal absolutely fatal flaws, which sets Sharon and Mel both up for some interesting problems later on. It’s more difficult to see what drew Mel to Sharon, and that’s largely because Sharon is our narrator, and an unreliable one at that. Sharon is the one of the partnership who sees the future the most clearly, has the ability to take a vision and give it roots in the real world. It’s potent enough to create the two-person universe in which they live.

How did you decide to make Sharon and Mel animators? Do you have personal experience with animation, or did research inform your writing about their work?
I knew pretty solidly that Sharon and Mel were cartoonists. I knew for sure they weren’t writers. Imagine telling these women, “Use your words.” You’d be sorry you did. But they see everything, and in bright, bright color. I knew their shared tastes and cultural education dictated that cartoons would play a large role in how they processed their world. Animation began by making sense to their story, and ended by becoming their story, and it was exciting, as a writer, to experience that development.

“Imagine telling these women, ‘Use your words.’ You’d be sorry you did. But they see everything, and in bright, bright color.”

I can’t draw. It’s my big secret. I wish I could. I’m probably an enormous fan due, in part, to my lack of visual talent. I’ve always loved comics and animation—two different mediums that, for me, have always seemed linked. Some of my earliest habits were to curl up with a gigantic pile of Calvin and Hobbes collections, or volumes of Peanuts, and read and eat candy. I was a very unhappy kid, and my reading habits, coupled with my viewing habits—I adored “The Simpsons,” “Beavis and Butthead,” “Liquid Television,” “Ren and Stimpy”—became a source of happiness, my safe place. And while a lot of kids stop watching cartoons as they mature, I never did. I took a more scholarly interest in the cultural impact of cartoons later on and made it an object of study—my senior thesis in college was The Image of the Hillbilly in Cartoon Animation (I’m originally from Eastern Kentucky and had a minor in Appalachian Studies), and I actually delivered an undergrad lecture deconstructing “Squidbillies.” 

I took my research seriously in learning how Sharon and Mel would work. I spent a lot of hours looking up equipment—Cintiqs, drafting boards—and read as much as I could about technique. YouTube has made learning about craft a really lovely, immersive experience, because you have a lot of practitioners who post step-by-step videos detailing their process, and you get that visual and aural sense of the work as well. Of course, you never want your research to overshadow the central story, but I did want to honor what Mel and Sharon live for. What they make, and how they make it, is important to who they are.

How did you come up with the concepts for Mel and Sharon’s films, Nashville Combat and Irrefutable Love?
A lot of young writers and artists begin their body of work by writing about themselves. It made sense, to me, that Sharon and Mel would follow this pattern (if anything, because their respective pasts have been so volatile). I wanted to track them through that process—how do they make decisions? How do they generate material? Does recreating trauma in art have implications on their lives as artists and as people? For Mel—Nashville Combat almost certainly started out as a serious of sort-of-jokingly-told stories from her life that were so good, Sharon wheedled her into combining them into a cohesive narrative. But push all those jokes together and the amalgamation creates a life picture that is dark, to say the least, which is the tipoff to Mel’s difficult journey throughout the book. She makes herself miserable with what she makes, and I wanted to investigate that.

For Sharon, I see Irrefutable Love as the hurdle she jumps over in order to begin making work that is not about herself. It is her attempt to work past the boundaries that have contained her. It’s also her way of claiming her own voice, an issue of struggle for Sharon, who often feels as if she has no agency. I can see Sharon’s real happy ending occurring about five years after Irrefutable Love, when she creates something that may begin with the self, but moves outward into the world.

Both Sharon and Mel have complicated relationships with their mothers. How do you think these relationships shaped the women they would become?
I think we can assume that Sharon’s mother, and Mel’s mother, are difficult women in part because they’ve lived difficult lives from which they would like to protect their daughters. There is so much about being a woman that deals in fear, and anger, and limitation. How do you strike the balance, as a parent, between giving your daughter a fair warning about a world that will more or less try to consume her, and encouraging her to be brave—to go out into that same world and fight for her identity? But for all the trouble childhood upheaval and conflict causes both Sharon and Mel, it also has a real edifying effect on both of them. It makes them incredibly steely, which protects them as both artists and women. They don’t apologize for their lives. We see them at this wonderful stage in which they don’t care to be everyone’s favorite girl. They see that kind of validation for what it is: an immense waste of time. These are rare qualities in women. We still live in a world in which young girls are taught, both explicitly and implicitly, that the best thing they can be is accommodating to those around them. It’s worth it to ask what happens to these women, their lives, when they are taught that their full potential is to be an accessory?

Why do you think Sharon changed her mind about making Irrefutable Love? What was the turning point?
Sharon hitting bottom is where the book turns the corner and heads for its final destination. She hit bottom in the way that addicts hit bottom: she realized that if she didn’t change her mode of living—in her case, lying to herself, and insulating herself from the lies by living this fantasy world in her own head, constructing elaborate stories and understandings that helped her to survive—she was going to consume herself. She hid past trauma from both the world and herself, perhaps for fear that confronting these awful events was a heavier burden than she could manage. She hit her thirties and realized that the old tricks weren’t working anymore. I think making a decision to not be your own worst enemy is one of the bravest things a person can do. Sharon throwing herself into making Irrefutable Love, a task that requires her to become incredibly honest and incredibly uncomfortable, is a victory. It made me love her more.

“I think making a decision to not be your own worst enemy is one of the bravest things a person can do.”

Mel’s final project is a haunting one. Do you think she intended to split up with Sharon, or were her sketches just the next project for the two of them?
Personal opinion? I think Mel was preparing to leave. But I’m of the mind that once the world of the book is in motion, the author sort of steps away, so my opinion may be as valid as the next reader’s. Sharon and Mel’s partnership has existed since they were both 18 years old. Partnerships only work, however, when both sides are driven, decisive creators with the potential for independent work, and the natural, eventual end to that dynamic is a split. Divergence would be natural and healthy for both of them. I think both Sharon and Mel would have realized this and parted ways—if anything, to save the friendship.

Sharon and Mel are true creative partners—so much so that Sharon isn’t sure she can create without Mel. Have you ever had a similar partnership or strong creative influence?
I haven’t. I’ve worked with others in the past and enjoyed it, but I’ve never been in a partnership as intense as Sharon and Mel’s. One aspect of writing The Animators that I’ll miss is that vicarious experience of being part of a team. No—if you are going to be a writer, you have to be comfortable with being alone a big chunk of the time. And I am, for the most part. It is solitary work.

How did your experience growing up in Kentucky influence your depictions in the novel?
Kentuckians—maybe Southerners in general, or Appalachian Southerners—are loud and excellent storytellers. I’ve been eavesdropping my whole life. When I started writing fiction, and hunkering down to read and study fiction and how it works, dialogue was the element I saw, and—I think—produced with the most clarity. To this day, characters always occur to me voice-first. Sharon’s family, in particular, is a real voice-driven crowd. They’re loud as all hell, so they’re not that hard to hear. I’ve read, and seen, some godawful depictions of Southerners and Kentuckians/West Virginians specifically in the media. It’s always deeply insulting when a human being is boiled down to a trite stereotype, but it’s also, for the purposes of fiction, extremely uninteresting. I can’t say that wasn’t an impetus to write complex, nuanced characters from this part of the country. Representation matters, wherever you are and whoever you are.

Do you see any of yourself in Mel or Sharon? Why or why not?
I probably had Mel’s impulsiveness when I was younger. I don’t have it any more, thankfully. I do share Sharon’s solitary nature, to a degree. I understand her need to seclude herself. But I’m glad I don’t have their lives. Their lives are very complicated. What became the most apparent to me after writing this book was how much I admired, and wished for myself, Sharon’s and Mel’s autonomy, their lack of a need to please others. I think most women, at some point, realize just how substantial a part of their lives has been conditioning to be a “good” girl or woman—to be inoffensive, to be a balm to others even when one’s sense of self is snuffed out. Here’s something it took me 30 years to learn: no one else cares if your sense of self is snuffed out. You’re going to have to step in and rally your boundaries for yourself. The world will not do it for you. Sharon and Mel’s unapologetic service to themselves is the exact opposite of what is encouraged for women. I envy them that.

Your novel covers so much ground—what’s one thing you’d like your readers to take away from it?
It’s a large book in which a lot happens, that’s true. But I’ve been very happy every time someone has brought up the Bechdel Test in discussing this book. There’s a surprising number of books, movies—stories being told, out there—that still fail, on a monumental level, by refusing to tell stories about the way real female lives are lived—that is, with values and goals and focus that don’t always involve, or are dependent upon, men. It’s 2017 and female redemption is still usually portrayed by the female character, in question, finding love with a man, or having a baby. Sharon and Mel’s stories are about themselves. Their values don’t always align with those of the world around them, but they persist in living within the framework of those values. I love that story. I hope that story is told more frequently in the future.

What writers or artists inspire you?
I’ll always be drawn to Southern writers and Appalachian writers. Flannery O’Connor, Carson McCullers, Harry Crews, Breece D’J Pancake. But my tastes overall are pretty varied. Of current stuff, I really like Nell Zink, Maggie Nelson and Lindsay Hunter. I like George Saunders—I’m beginning to suspect everyone does. There’s this copy of Lincoln in the Bardo roosting in my house, my carrot at the end of the stick for when I finish this project I’m working on. I’m a huge Stephen King fan and I’m not afraid to admit it. Those books propel you forward in a stunning way. He is a master of plot momentum. I like weird, and my standard for weird is probably, in large part, informed by being 13 and reading The Stand while inhaling a bag of circus peanuts.

What’s next for you?
I’m working on a book that, in large part, involves rabies. I’ve got a stack of books on my desk about infectious disease and plague. It’s fun, but it’s also keeping me from sleeping at night.

 

ALSO IN BOOKPAGE: Read our review of The Animators

The fierce, creative women at the heart of Kayla Rae Whitaker’s debut, The Animators, are impossible to forget. Mel and Sharon meet in college, where they share an outsider status thanks to their shared Southern roots. Both are talented artists, and their combined genius brings them together in a life-changing creative partnership and friendship. We asked Whitaker a few questions about this page-turner of a first novel.

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