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In The Impossible Knife of Memory, author Laurie Halse Anderson demonstrates yet again her ability to define new directions for the YA “problem novel” genre. Teenager Hayley and her father, who suffers from PTSD, live with a past that threatens to swallow their future.

The title of your new book, The Impossible Knife of Memory, is quite striking. Why compare memory to a knife?

Not all memories are nice. The main character’s father is plagued by horrific battlefield memories. His PTSD rules the life of his family to such an extent that his daughter tries to push away her childhood memories, even the good ones, because it hurts so much to think about the life they had before her father’s spirit was broken. Memories can cut both ways.

What draws you to tackle intense subject matter like rape in Speak and PTSD in Impossible Knife?

I write about things that make me angry and confused. I don’t have to look far to find topics. If things like rape, anorexia and PTSD upset adults like me, what do they feel like to the teens who are trapped by them? That’s what I want to write about.

Why do you think teens need to read about these topics?

It’s not about what they need to read. It’s what they want to read. They know that life is tough and confusing and unforgiving. They want books that will give them insight into what’s coming. And—just like adults (who are flocking to YA books like never before)—they want to be entertained. I try to write books that give them exactly what they are hungry for.

“If things like . . . PTSD upset adults like me, what do they feel like to the teens who are trapped by them?”

Like in your other realistic fiction for teens, the difficult issues in The Impossible Knife of Memory are balanced by black humor. For example, Hayley’s high school places her in an ironic early morning “lunch” period and is (according to her) populated primarily by student zombies. Why is it important to include humor alongside such serious subject matter?

In Notes from Underground, Dostoyevsky said that sarcasm was “usually the last refuge of modest and chaste-souled people when the privacy of their soul is coarsely and intrusively invaded.” To that I would add that sarcasm is a tool of the powerless, an excellent blade to carry when life is beating you up. Teenagers understand this better than adults. They’ve just figured out the absurdities and hypocrisies of our world, and much of their sense of humor revolves around that.

Hayley’s high school has replaced its gym and library teachers with unpaid aides. It holds regular lockdown drills, and its classrooms are equipped with window blinds meant to deflect school shooters. Are these features intended to reflect the priorities of contemporary high schools?

I don’t know that they reflect the priorities of high schools today, but they reflect the reality in many schools. I continue to be amazed at America’s unwillingness to fund schools properly, to make them safe and to reduce class size. Children are born curious, but our education system sometimes seems hell-bent on destroying that curiosity instead of nurturing it.

Hayley’s friends and teachers encourage her to think about her future, but she has no particular plans. Did you have a firm direction in mind for yourself right after high school or did you, like Hayley, have no idea what you would do after graduation?

I had no clue what I was doing or where I was going. I spent my senior year in high school as a foreign exchange student, living on a pig farm in Denmark. When I came back to the States, I worked a dead-end job just long enough to realize that I needed an education. I found a job milking cows on a dairy farm and went to community college. I never thought I’d be an author; I just wanted to be educated enough so that I didn’t have to shovel manure the rest of my life.

Hayley knows a lot about American history and is constantly courting trouble by challenging her history teacher’s simplistic explanations. You’ve written several historical fiction novels for teens and tweens, including Fever 1793, Chains and Forge. Is there any particular historical event that you’d risk detention in order to explain correctly?

This is one of the best questions of all time! I’d risk detention and expulsion if I could explain the history of slavery in America. Our aversion to discussing our nation’s original sin perpetuates racism and damages all of us.

Your books have garnered significant critical praise, including a Printz Honor in 2000 for Speak and the Margaret A. Edwards Award in 2009 for your body of work as a whole. How has this recognition influenced your writing, your career or your life in general?

It’s been an incredible validation and an unexpected gift. I never thought Speak would be published, much less open the door to this wonderful life. I am a very grateful and lucky girl.

In The Impossible Knife of Memory, author Laurie Halse Anderson demonstrates yet again her ability to define new directions for the YA “problem novel” genre. Teenager Hayley and her father, who suffers from PTSD, live with a past that threatens to swallow their future. The title of your new book, The Impossible Knife of Memory, […]

The mystery at the heart of Marcus Sedgwick’s labyrinthine Midwinterblood is so well hidden, it’s not even initially clear what the mystery is at all. Seven stories—from a young journalist in 2027 to a vampire in the 10th century—unfold in reverse chronological order on this magical Scandinavian island, revealing a dark and complex tale of eternal love and sacrifice. Our young adult literature expert Jill Ratzan predicted Midwinterblood would earn the 2014 Printz Award, and indeed it won. We caught up with British author Sedgwick to find out what it's like to win the Printz.

What was the first thing that went through your head when you found out you had won the Printz?

When I heard the news I was in a taxi in Kuala Lumpur. It was pitch black, about six in the morning, and it all seemed like a dream, and that perhaps it wasn't real. But when I was sure about what I was being told, I nearly screamed, possibly scared the taxi driver in the process.

Who was the one person you couldn't wait to tell about the award?

My partner, Maureen. I'm on the other side of the world at the moment. The book is dedicated to her and I had to tell her it had won. 

Do you have a favorite past Printz winner?

That's a tough question because in its short life, the Printz has gone to some incredible books. For me it comes down to a close run thing between three books, but I'm going to pick Gene Luen Yang's American Born Chinese—for a few reasons: It won against some amazing writers; I'm a big fan of comics; and I'm always happy when a book prize goes to a genuinely kind and humble person.

What's the best part of writing books for a younger audience?

More tough questions! If I had to pick one thing, it would be the freedom. In many ways younger readers are more open minded than older ones. More open to strange and wonderful ideas. If you're writing books and want to push boundaries a little bit, then that's a very good thing.

What kind of reaction have you gotten from your readers about this book?

My main concern about Midwinterblood was to make sure it felt like one novel, not just a set of seven short stories. I worked hard on trying to make it feel cohesive. No one seems to have levelled that complaint at me, so I hope it does have the seven parts feeling of an eighth, larger, story.

Have you read or listened to past Printz acceptance speeches? Are you excited (or worried!) about your own speech?

I was present in 2011 when Paolo Bacigalupi won with Ship Breaker. He made a great speech, as did the Honor recipients that year. Like many awards, the acceptance speech has become a focus of attention. I will give it some thought, try not to let anyone down and try not to weep.

What's next for you?

It's a busy time—my first adult novel appears in the UK in March, and there's more publicity to do for my current book, She Is Not Invisible. Some trips abroad for festivals, and then it will be time to head for Las Vegas for ALA 2014.

 

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The mystery at the heart of Marcus Sedgwick’s labyrinthine Midwinterblood is so well hidden, it’s not even initially clear what the mystery is at all. Seven stories—from a young journalist in 2027 to a vampire in the 10th century—unfold in reverse chronological order on this magical island, revealing a dark and complex tale that is expertly told. Our young adult literature expert Jill Ratzan predicted Midwinterblood would earn the 2014 Printz Award, and indeed it won. British author Sedgwick answered a few questions for us about what it’s like to win the Printz.

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In National Book Award finalist Deb Caletti’s new novel, The Last Forever, a teenager tells the bittersweet, achingly honest and often funny story of finding hope in an ever-changing world.

Following her mother’s death, Tessa and her pot-smoking father take an impromptu road trip—for escape, for healing, for whatever it is they need. But her father doesn’t just take Tess to the Grand Canyon; he drags her all the way to a small coastal town in Oregon and abandons her with his mother, a woman Tess barely knows. (He promises to return . . . eventually.) And on top of all that, Tess brought her mom’s rare pixiebell plant with her. It’s her last connection to her mother, and it’s beginning to wilt.

As she struggles to save the pixiebell and cope with her mother’s death and her father’s disappearance, Tess forms a bond with her grandmother and meets Henry Lark, her first love. Needless to say, Tess’ trials and sadness do not stop with the loss of her mother—life doesn’t work that way. But she is able to get through these moments, bit by bit, with the love from friends and family—and the sanctuary of the library.

The Last Forever is a moving and surprising book, with a heroine that is at once fragile and resilient. Tess might have an edge to her, but she is never a cynic. She has hope; she falls in love. She finds new life after devastating loss.

The Last Forever has elements we’ve seen in your work before: multigenerational road trips, first love, heartache and loss. In what way does The Last Forever stand out to you?
I think the themes are larger. This isn’t really a boy-girl-love book, and if a reader comes to it looking for that, they’re likely to be disappointed. It is about love, yes, but in the greatest sense of the word—deep love, the lasting kind, between parents and children, lifelong friends, family, partners. It’s about our beginnings, endings and the whole big beautiful mess in between. Like most of my novels, it’s a gentle, “human condition” book, but this one touches on a more timeless subject—the way we continue on. And then there’s the vault. A wedge of steel, hidden in the farthest corner of the arctic, built to house millions of seeds so that we might begin again in the event of global catastrophe—definitely one of my most unusual locations.

I’m familiar with the Victorian language of flowers, but for The Last Forever, you create your own language, the language of seeds. Every chapter opens with a fact about a remarkable seed, which matches up with what’s going on in Tessa’s adventure. Not to mention, seeds become a powerful metaphor for the relationship between parent and child, among other things. Do you have a favorite seed? What does it mean to you?
I was fascinated by all of the seed research I did. Who knew that each seed had its own unique qualities, quirks, and history, much like we do? My favorite was the seed of the Fireweed, which is known for its ability to both survive in and transform the most desperate locations. This seed will choose locations destroyed by fire and oil spills and war, blanketing them in no time with new color and life. I love that. Now there’s resilience and triumph, for you.

Tessa narrates this story after the fact, giving us little previews of events to come, things she didn’t know when she was actually on this adventure. Even the opening sentence reveals a small peek of plot points much further down the road: “In those early months, when the beautiful and mysterious Henry Lark and I began to do all that reading . . .” But the reader never really meets this storytelling Tessa. Who do you picture as this older, slightly wiser Tessa?
I just picture Tessa as herself, maybe in college now, after a few years have passed. It can take some time after the large events of our lives to really gain perspective. After a while, you say, “Oh, so that’s what all that meant.” As a writer, I liked the thoughtful quality that the “looking back” brings the narrative; I imagine Tessa penning the story from Jenny’s sunny porch on Parrish Island, Vito sleeping in a spot of sun nearby.

Tessa’s foreshadowing elements provide the sense of foresight that few people (not just teens) have when we are mired in the darkest points of our life. The ability to look ahead comes with age and experience, and often requires a reminder from friends and family. What advice would you offer teenagers—or perhaps, your own teenage self—who can’t see so far ahead?
I would advise anyone struggling to hold on, because you never, ever know what a new day will bring. Teens won’t likely have seen that old classic movie, The African Queen, but there’s a scene in it I’ve thought of frequently during my own darkest times. Remember when the boat is stuck and stuck and stuck forever in that jungle swamp? Just before Humphrey Bogart and Katherine Hepburn are about to give up, the camera pans upward, and we—the audience—see what they can’t, that they are only a few feet away from freedom. They’ve just fallen asleep in exhaustion from their plight, but we can see the wide, open space that is waiting for them as soon as they wake up. Looking back on hard times, I realize just how close I was to change, even if I didn’t know it right then. Fate has plans for you. Believe it.

“Libraries have been an essential and sustaining fact of my life since I was a child. I saw the magic immediately: dinosaurs and planets and girl detectives; adventure and escape, all in a setting of order and safety.”

One of my favorite moments in the book is when Tessa finds the library right after her father ditches her. Books are “knowledge in the face of confusion.” What comfort has the library brought to your life?
The Last Forever
is my little love note to libraries, librarians and book lovers—could you tell? Everyone who knows me knows how I feel about the library. Libraries have been an essential and sustaining fact of my life since I was a child. I saw the magic immediately: dinosaurs and planets and girl detectives; adventure and escape, all in a setting of order and safety. From then on, like Tessa and many other characters in this book, I was the library-goer who needed the library—for sanctuary and for a sigh of relief, and because all the answers were in that place. I ate lunch in there sometimes when I was a teen and needed a reprieve from being a teen. As a young mother, I trolled the aisles dripping babies and book bags as I tried to learn how to be a writer. And later, I hid in Self Help as I tried to understand—and leave—my abusive marriage.

That’s another thing: librarians keep your secrets. Between those walls and those covers there is all of life, the whole record of us poor old souls doing what we can to get through it, and librarians know this. Libraries and the books within them brought me to the life that was mine. It’s still my favorite cure for a bad day, and I’ve never lost the thrill that I can actually bring all those books home.

This book would be an obvious choice to a teenager (or anyone) who had recently lost a parent, but for those who are fortunate to not have experienced this loss, what do you hope they will take away from this book?
I hope that they’ll laugh a little, maybe cry a little, and find comfort in the idea that, in a world where everything is constantly changing, there are always people we can count on.

At the heart of The Last Forever (the title is a big giveaway) is the hope for forever in a world where death is inevitable. Do you have a “last forever,” something that gives you that kind of hope?
Well, this is a corny answer but an honest one. I believe that the real, deep and often flawed connections we have with all of our beloveds is a powerful, powerful thing. The thing. If anything can last forever, it’s love.

Caletti spoke with BookPage about the power of love, her fascination with seeds and the library’s ability to keep all your secrets.
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How do you talk about a story so shrouded in secrecy, its own heroine doesn’t know what’s going on? Here’s what we do know: The characters in E. Lockhart’s 10th novel are members of a privileged American family. We know that a private island is involved, on which both intense friendship and romance bloom. But anything else we think we know could be a lie.

Fortunately, Lockhart, author of the 2009 Printz Honor-winning The Disreputable History of Frankie Landau-Banks, is willing to tiptoe through some of the details.

We Were Liars is told from the point of view of 17-year-old Cadence Sinclair Eastman, when she returns to the island off the coast of Cape Cod where she and her fam­ily—and one special friend—spend every summer. But “summer seventeen” is marred by questions surrounding a mysterious accident that occurred two years ago, leaving Cady with unexplained injuries, including chronic migraines and selective amnesia. Why did she go swimming by herself the night of the accident? Why are her aunts and cousins acting so strangely? And what dark secrets lie beneath her family’s proud exterior?

It’s no surprise that Lockhart is good at keeping secrets, as her real name is Emily Jenkins. (“Lockhart” was her grandmother’s maiden name.) She has written several children’s books and two adult books using her real name, but has found something special writing for teens.

“I really like being a member of the young adult fiction community,” Lockhart tells BookPage from her home in the New York City area. “There are issues around which the community galvanizes: literacy issues and freedom of speech issues. I never found that kind of public-minded dialogue and enterprise in my short time in the adult fiction world. As a maker of literature, or a writer or artist . . . as a person, it was a much better fit than anything I had done before.”

In her latest YA novel, We Were Liars, the suspense-laden narrative is interrupted by flashbacks and snippets of fairy tales such as “Beauty and the Beast,” elements that gradually become more connected to the main story.

“All of the fairy tales begin, ‘Once upon a time there was a king who had three beautiful daughters,’ ” Lockhart says. “I took a lot of those fairy tales and used them, and variations of them, to tell the story of this family.”

Although no actual royalty lives on Beechwood Island, the Sinclair family patriarch, Cady’s grandfather, fills a parallel role. His three beautiful daughters compete for his affection—and for the best parts of his inheritance. As the fairy-tale daughters profess their love and ask for gifts, the Sinclair daughters turn to increasingly desperate tactics to claim the island’s choicest sections for themselves. And as unsuitable suitors find their way into the fairy tales, Cady also finds herself in love with a boy of whom her grandfather intensely disapproves.

"You’re seeing more YA books that are influenced by postmodernism, in a playful, fun way. Young people love it—they’re ready to go forward with a new narrative device.”

As her mother and aunts squabble for their share, Cady struggles to fill in the missing pieces of summer fifteen. Flashbacks provided a challenge to Lockhart, both in terms of their content and their placement within the primary narrative. “Those could be moved and then reworked depending on where they settled. Those were rearranged many, many, many times,” Lockhart says. Readers will undoubtedly want to revisit Cady’s reminiscences, looking for clues as to what really happened that fateful summer.

Cady’s debilitating migraines echo the real-life experiences of people Lockhart knows, forming an important aspect of her storytelling. “I was interested both in the way that chronic pain affects one’s sense of oneself, and the way it would feel to live a life where you’re often taken out of your own life story for days at a time—and then have to reinsert yourself into it.” Similarly, Cady’s pain forces her to periodically retreat from her own storyline.

Ever since Robert Cormier, an early pioneer of YA literature, penned I Am the Cheese in 1977, unusual narrative forms and unreliable narrators have found a welcome home in YA fiction. Cady’s narration both echoes and elaborates on this tradition.

“I think we’re seeing a lot of formal experimentation and play,” Lockhart says. “There are lots of hybrid novels, mixing graphic and traditional storytelling. . . . You’re seeing more YA books that are influenced by postmodernism, in a playful, fun way. Young people love it—they’re ready to go forward with a new narrative device.”

These shifting formats involve “asking a lot of the reader,” but that works fine with Lockhart’s conception of teens: “Readers [of YA lit] might be reading about, learning about or experiencing certain things for the first time. But that doesn’t mean disrespecting or devaluing their intellectual or emotional capabilities.”

For many teens, including Cady, summers constitute entire separate worlds, distinct from regular school-year life but every bit as meaningful. In fact, readers see so little of Cady’s school year that it almost seems not to exist. Only her summers, peppered with intense architectural and culinary detail, seem real.

Lockhart has an abiding interest in these sorts of immersive environments, ranging from her love of the eccentric, iconic NYC restaurant Jekyll & Hyde Club to wax museums. “They are creepy,” she admits. “But I like artificial environments and any kind of fictional spaces. There’s a story in every waxwork. I like the dioramas the best, where there’s a narrative being created. I like that mix of reality and unreality.”

Lockhart holds a doctorate in English literature and loves the connections between her academic work and writing for teens. She argues that both academia and fandom are valid ways to connect with literature. Reinterpretations of contemporary works, such as fan fiction, fan art, board games and video games, “are interpretations of popular texts that might say something different [from what] a classic college reading of those same texts would generate.”

In the end, Lockhart says, writing for teens is about “just trying to write the story and tell the story truthfully.” Truthfully? Well, maybe with a few lies thrown in here and there.

 

Jill Ratzan reviews for School Library Journal and works as a school librarian at a small independent school in New Jersey. She learned most of what she knows about YA literature from her terrific graduate students.

This article was originally published in the May 2014 issue of BookPage. Download the entire issue for the Kindle or Nook.

How do you talk about a story so shrouded in secrecy, its own heroine doesn’t know what’s going on? Here’s what we do know: The characters in E. Lockhart’s 10th novel are members of a privileged American family. We know that a private island is involved, on which both intense friendship and romance bloom. But anything else we think we know could be a lie.

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In the final book in Julie Kagawa’s popular dystopian vampire Blood of Eden trilogy, kick-butt heroine Allie Sekemoto finally gives in to her monster side following the death of her love, Zeke. She’s on a mission to hunt down psychopathic vampire Sarren, and her journey takes her to the last vampire-free zone remaining—Eden.

Without spoiling anything for fans, what are you most excited about in The Forever Song?
This is the finale. The end of Allie’s story. I guess what I’m most excited about is the final battle, watching everything that has been building since book one come to a head. There’s a desperate race against time, lots of fighting, that moment when everything seems lost and, of course, sacrifice, heartache and death. Who will come out of it alive? You’ll have to read the book to find out.

There are so many great vampire books. What drew you to share your own vision of the vampire myth?
Funny story: Back at the beginning of my writing career, I told myself I wasn’t going to write a vampire story. I felt there were already so many great ones out there, and I didn’t have anything new to add. I was actually discussing the idea of a post-apocalyptic world with my agent when she asked me what I thought about writing a vampire book. That’s when I got the idea of combining the post-apocalyptic world with the vampire mythos, and from there the Immortal Rules was born.

“And while it’s difficult and bittersweet for me to say goodbye to Allie and co., I’m satisfied with how their story came to a close. I know I left them in the best place I could.”

What’s the hardest part about finishing a trilogy? Is it difficult to say goodbye to these characters?
The hardest part of finishing a trilogy—any series really—is giving the readers an ending that is satisfying but still stays true to the book and the characters. They’ve been through a lot with your heroes; you don’t want to leave them feeling cheated or that there were too many things left unanswered. You want them to close the book with the knowledge that, even though there were some unexpected twists, turns, heartbreak and losses, the story couldn’t have ended any other way. And while it’s difficult and bittersweet for me to say goodbye to Allie and co., I’m satisfied with how their story came to a close. I know I left them in the best place I could.

Of all the many books you’ve written, who is your favorite character and why?
Oh goodness, I don’t think I can answer that. I love them all in different ways; I honestly couldn’t choose a favorite. Though the most entertaining character, from the Blood of Eden series anyway, would have to be Jackal. I love his snark and his sarcasm, and the way he says exactly what’s on his mind, regardless if you want to hear it or not. He’s ruthless and selfish and violent, and makes no excuses for it. He knows he’s a monster, and he’s perfectly fine with that, but he’ll occasionally have moments of wisdom and nobility that shock everyone. He was one of the most interesting and surprising characters I’ve written about, and I love the arrogant bloodsucker to pieces.

If you could take one of Allie’s traits for yourself, what would it be?
Her mad katana skills? I don’t think I need to be more stubborn, lol.

What’s next?
My next series is one I’m super excited about. It’s called Talon, out in November 2014, and it’s about modern-day dragons and their secret war with the Order of St. George.

It might be the end for Allie and the gang, but Kagawa won't keep fans hanging for long. We checked in with the author about the trilogy's finale and what she's up to next.
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Katherine Howe’s new YA novel Conversion alternates between two narratives. In one, contemporary high school student Colleen Rowley’s senior year at the high-pressure St. Joan’s Academy for Girls is interrupted by the outbreak of an unexplained illness. In the other, set at the beginning of the 18th century, a woman confesses to the role she played as a teenager in perpetuating the Salem witchcraft panic of 1692. Taken together, the two stories dare their reader to rethink the differences between past and present, rumor and truth, and science and magic.

BookPage caught up with Howe to find out more about her writing process, her most influential book and her unusual family history.

Conversion is based on a real-life, recent incident at a New York high school. What about this event intrigued you most?
When I first stumbled upon the story about the mysterious ailments at the high school in Le Roy, New York, I was in the middle of teaching The Crucible to my historical fiction seminar at Cornell and an hour’s drive away. The parallels struck me immediately. Most strikingly, in each case—Salem on the one hand and Le Roy on the other—a group of adults developed their own agendas about what was happening, while the teenagers at the center of it were having their own experience that I didn’t think was being fully explored. I was interested by the fact that the symptoms and behaviors are best understood as an expression of the intense stress and pressure under which adolescent girls must live in our culture. In many respects it was much, much harder to be a teenager in the 1690s (especially if you were an indentured servant or a slave). But I think it’s important to talk about the fact that even with all our scientific advances and technology and feminism and progress, teenage girls are still under so much stress that sometimes their bodies literally can’t take it. I wanted to write a story that would give us a way to talk about this.

You are a direct descendent of two of the women accused of witchcraft during the 1692 Salem witch trials. How has this impacted your identity and your career?
Three, actually, I just learned! Serves me right for messing around on the Internet instead of working. Most women who were accused as witches in the early modern period were accused because they were out of step with their culture in some way—they were argumentative, problematic, opinionated, sometimes angry. I certainly feel a kinship or solidarity with women who had that set of traits at a time that sought to punish them for it. The biggest impact on my career is that my first novel, The Physick Book of Deliverance Dane, looks at Salem from the witch’s point of view, just as Conversion looks at Salem from the afflicted girls’ point of view. I’ve spent most of my career thinking and writing about witches in North America.

"I think it’s important to talk about the fact that even with all our scientific advances and technology and feminism and progress, teenage girls are still under so much stress that sometimes their bodies literally can’t take it."

While they’re doing homework one day, Colleen’s friend Deena expresses disinterest in history (“Who cares? It already happened.”). You obviously disagree, as a running theme of Conversion is the complex relationship between the past and the present. Why do you think studying history is important?
I don’t want to recycle the Santayana chestnut about those who do not study history being condemned to repeat it, but I do think that only by studying history can we really understand our present. When I was in high school I felt the way Deena does; I thought history was just about memorizing a long list of battles and dates and who was president when, and who cares? But it’s so much more than that. History explains our conflicts, illuminates our ingrained assumptions and can bring depth and nuance to our mythologies. History tells us not only who we are, but why, and how.

Colleen’s study of The Crucible influences the way she thinks about what’s happening around her. When you were a teenager, was there a book in your life that shaped your thought process in similar ways?
To be honest, as a high schooler I was profoundly influenced by Huis Clos (No Exit), the well known play by Jean-Paul Sartre. It depicts three people—two women and a man—trapped in a room that is decorated only with three Second Empire sofas, a mantel clock and a letter opener. It turns out that they have all been damned, and that hell is just this—a room, with other people. I loved the way that this work of fiction reconceived our assumptions about a cultural trope—what hell is like, with pitchforks and imps—while at the same time advancing an existential philosophical position. I have Huis Clos to thank for the reading I went on to do in existentialism in high school, which led to a philosophy major in college. I went on to other study, in art and American history specifically, but I’ve never fully moved away from the philosophical habits of mind that I learned as a teenager.  

Your descriptions of academic life at a prestigious high school are spot-on, from Advanced Placement courses’ nicknames to the awkwardness of Harvard alumni interviews. You attended the Kinkaid School in Texas, a school similar to St. Joan’s. How was your high school experience similar to, or different from, Colleen’s?
While there might be a few similarities between Kinkaid and St. Joan’s, they’re really quite different. For one thing, St. Joan’s is a Catholic school, and my own school didn’t have a religious affiliation, so I had to interrogate some Catholic school alum friends for details. Another big difference is that Kinkaid is co-educational, and some of my closest friends from high school were (and still are) guys, while Colleen is in an intense single-sex environment, which winds up being an important part of her story. New England and Texas also have very different regional personalities; I doubt that Colleen and her friends heard George Strait at prom. But they are similar in that I was fortunate to attend a school that placed a high value on academics, and encouraged the students to express themselves and their intelligence to their full potential. I think that curiosity, and the ability to satisfy that curiosity, is the most important skill to acquire in high school. I’m lucky that Kinkaid did that for me.

Colleen and Ann, the two narrators of Conversion, live in very different times and speak in very different ways. What was it like to write in two such distinct voices?
I really enjoy trying to find authentic voices for my characters. One way to do it is to learn as much as I can about slang and everyday speech for whatever period I’m writing in. Ann wouldn’t use words like “cool” or “awesome” unless she were describing temperature or religious revelation. But that doesn’t mean she would speak formally like a character on Masterpiece Theater. She was a teenager, and she would use slang, just like Colleen would. Trickier is that teenagers also use language that I might not want to necessarily write; I cussed like a sailor when I was in high school, but I don’t think that adds to a story necessarily. So for her voice I spent a lot of time listening to the college students in my town, trying to absorb their rhythms and turns of phrase.

Can you tell us a little about how you researched Ann’s sections, and how you incorporated historical sources into your fictional interpretation of her story?
The cool thing about the Salem witch crisis is that so many of the historical records not only still exist, but have been scanned and made available online for anyone who wishes to see them on a web archive maintained by the University of Virginia. When the magistrates were examining witnesses, they wrote down everything that was said, just like on an episode of "Law and Order." So many of the courtroom scenes in Conversion are actually adapted from what the people really said. The same goes for Ann’s apology; I reproduce that verbatim. On September 30, Penguin Classics will release an edited primary source reader that I put together called The Penguin Book of Witches, which contains many of the documents that I used to research this novel. For people interested in learning more about the reality behind the fiction of witchcraft in North America, it will be a fascinating read.

A major motion picture based on Conversion is in the works. Can you tell us anything about it?
I’m sworn to secrecy at this point, I’m afraid. But I will say that it’s tricky to type with crossed fingers.

What projects are next for you?
I’m finishing up a new novel, tentatively called The Appearance of Annie van Sinderen, about an NYU film student in present day New York City who meets and falls in love with a mysterious girl who needs his help. Together they have to solve a historical crime, but it turns out the girl is more involved than they could have imagined. That book should appear from Penguin Teen in 2015. I’m also starting to think a lot about pirates.

 

Author photo credit Laura Dandaneau.

Katherine Howe’s new YA novel Conversion alternates between two narratives. In one, contemporary high school student Colleen Rowley’s senior year at the high-pressure St. Joan’s Academy for Girls is interrupted by the outbreak of an unexplained illness. In the other, set at the beginning of the 18th century, a woman confesses to the role she played as a teenager in perpetuating the Salem witchcraft panic of 1692. Taken together, the two stories dare their reader to rethink the differences between past and present, rumor and truth, and science and magic.

BookPage caught up with Howe to find out more about her writing process, her most influential book and her unusual family history.

Most of the time, interviews about an author’s new novel take place a year or so after the book’s completion. So it might take a bit of doing for an author to feel up-to-date, especially if he or she is already ears-deep into the next project. Carlos Ruiz Zafón had to travel much further back in time when he spoke with BookPage from his home in Los Angeles about his fourth young adult novel, Marina: A Gothic Tale, which was first published in his native Spain in 1999.

In the intervening years, Zafón (who also has a home in his native Barcelona) has become best known for his three (and counting) adult novels, worldwide mega-sellers The Shadow of the Wind, The Angel’s Game and The Prisoner of Heaven. His books have been published in some 45 countries, and translated into 40-plus languages. (His English translator is Lucia Graves, novelist and daughter of poet Robert Graves.)

But Zafón’s career was launched in the YA realm when his first book, The Prince of Mist (Spain 1992; U.S. 2010), won Spain’s Edebé Literary Prize for Young Adult Fiction.

“It never crossed my mind that I wanted to be a YA writer,” he says. “My first novel happened to win an award for young adult fiction, but when I wrote it . . . it was just a tale of adventure that had young characters in it.” But Zafón’s literary magic was met with a captive audience: His next two YA books, The Midnight Palace (Spain 1994; U.S. 2011) and The Watcher in the Shadows (Spain 1995; U.S. 2013), found success around the world.

Marina is sure to follow suit, thanks to a mix of mystery, adventure, suspense and horror, plus a touching story of love, both romantic and familial. It’s an exciting read with a lot to take in—which makes sense, since the story’s protagonist, 15-year-old Oscar, is overwhelmed, excited, intrigued, besotted and terrified, often in the same 24-hour period.

Oscar has no idea what’s to come one day in 1979 when he, as is his habit, leaves the grounds of his Barcelona boarding school to explore an abandoned section of the city. His imagination is already on high alert when he encounters a well-fed gray cat and hears beautiful music coming from a decrepit mansion. His curiosity about these signs of life in the seemingly abandoned house proves impossible to squelch, and he ultimately learns that the lovely, enigmatic Marina Drai lives there with her father, Germán, an artist (and with the cat, Kafka).

Thus begins a tale of adventure and suspense, as the teenagers’ romance blossoms against a decidedly unusual backdrop. They follow a mysterious woman who goes to the cemetery every month to wordlessly perform a strange ritual. Soon they find themselves venturing into the long-hidden Barcelona underworld and the terrifying history of a man whose desire to heal turned into something twisted and gruesome.

Zafón doesn’t shy away from the grotesque, and there’s no shortage of scary scenes in Marina; under his skilled hand, readers will push forward even as they fear something scarier waiting around the corner. It’s deliciously thrilling, with echoes of Dickens, as well as Shelley’s Frankenstein.

That’s intentional, the author says. “As a kid, I read everything I could get my hands on . . . Dickens, Tolstoy, 19th-century classics, Stephen King, Peter Straub, crime novels.”

He adds, “I tend to go for the Gothic—a lot of my influences come from that, and I tend to pay homage. . . . I always like to look back, because there’s something in those works, that world, that appeals to me and my personal sensibility.”

And, Zafón says, whether in his YA works or his more recent adult fiction, “One of my ambitions has been to go back to what those great authors were doing then, and try to reinvent . . . the language through deconstruction and reconstruction. That’s always the direction I’m trying to hit. Marina on a small scale tries to do that, to bridge that sensibility of old Victorian Gothic tales and reconstruct them in a modern way.”

"One of my ambitions has been to go back to what those great authors were doing then . . . to bridge that sensibility of old Victorian Gothic tales and reconstruct them in a modern way.”

Speaking of modern, Zafón’s work appeals to fans of—and draws comparisons to—Stephen King’s novels. Not least, Zafón explains, because, “As a child in Spain in the ’70s, I always felt many of the things I was interested in were not available to me because I was born in Spain, so I was forced to learn English to access certain books, magazines and newspapers.” He adds, “I would go to newsstands and buy paperbacks they were selling for tourists, usually bestsellers and mass market paperbacks. In the beginning, it was like going to the Rosetta Stone—I didn’t understand anything, I’d get a headache—but I began to figure it out, and I’d read a lot of Stephen King paperbacks. I’ve always said he was my English professor.”

Zafón adds, “He’s extremely good at creating character and dialogue, and I learned a lot of idioms . . . and from the perspective of someone learning a language, I became aware of how different people and different registers work. On top of that, he’s a great storyteller.”

King thinks the same about Zafón; they haven’t discussed storytelling in person, but King wrote a lovely review of The Shadow of the Wind.

“For me, he’s such a great figure, and he wrote a very generous article,” Zafón says. “On top of that, he exactly nailed things. . . . It’s the only time in my life I’ve gone to a newsstand, bought a magazine, cut the page out and kept it.”

Perhaps the two authors will meet someday soon—say, at a book-centric event where Zafón is promoting his upcoming novel, the fourth in the adult fiction series set in the Cemetery of Forgotten Books? “I’m working on it right now. . . . It closes the circle,” he says. “It’s the big one.” Here’s hoping both stories get a happy ending.

 

This article was originally published in the August 2014 issue of BookPage. Download the entire issue for the Kindle or Nook.

Most of the time, interviews about an author’s new novel take place a year or so after the book’s completion. So it might take a bit of doing for an author to feel up-to-date, especially if he or she is already ears-deep into the next project. Carlos Ruiz Zafón had to travel much further back in time when he spoke with BookPage from his home in Los Angeles about his fourth young adult novel, Marina: A Gothic Tale, which was first published in his native Spain in 1999.
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The last thing Emma saw before going blind was the bright, spinning colors of fireworks—and then it all went dark. In the sensitively rendered and beautifully written Blind, Emma shares her story of courage and resilience as she comes to terms with a world that is forever changed. And when her insular hometown is shaken by a local teen’s suicide, Emma’s own tragedy is placed in sharp relief.

Rachel DeWoskin’s first young adult novel draws from her experiences while working with the Chicago Lighthouse for the Blind, where she learned braille and was inspired by the determination and warmth of her visually impaired and blind friends. DeWoskin’s ability to draw readers into her blind character’s mind seems effortless, and the story is full of details—such as comparing voices and words to smells and colors—that reveal Emma’s mind to be far from the lonely, dark place she initially fears it will be.

What was your greatest challenge in writing a story narrated by a blind character?
I wanted Emma to be a resilient warrior, but not a saint. To find herself in an impossible context, but not to become that context—or to become a victim or symbol. For me, Blind isn’t a book meant to be about blindness, or even a blind girl—it’s a book about being a girl in the world in general, about figuring out how to make meaning in (and of) your life, no matter how difficult the hand you’re dealt. How to survive and live in a way that’s meaningful and joyful.

What was the most surprising thing you learned about blind and visually impaired teens while working with the Chicago Lighthouse for the Blind?
I learned a lesson that I kept finding fascinating even as I learn it again and again in my grown-up life, which is that kids are unbelievably resilient. And, at their centers, so similar to one another, no matter what differences appear to define or set them apart from each other. I think part of what gives them what to my mind is amazing bravery and grit is actually a childish and useful ability to juxtapose (and experience) life’s most profound difficulties and joys with its most daily matters. To go from the zero of a social interaction at school to the infinity of our socially unjust world, or of a life-changing accident, of a death even—in mere seconds. And, importantly, to come back. In the visually impaired kids I met and talked to, this quality is particularly inspiring, because they’ve had to recalibrate how to live in a world designed for people who are sighted. And many of them have done so with quite incredible creativity, grace and humor. They play baseball with a ball that beeps; they read in the dark after bedtime; they wrap rubber bands around their eyeliners so they can tell black from blue. They are creative and funny and imaginative about ways to be their most engaged and best selves.

“For me, Blind isn’t a book meant to be about blindness, or even a blind girl—it’s a book about being a girl in the world in general, about figuring out how to make meaning in (and of) your life, no matter how difficult the hand you’re dealt.”

When the novel opens, there’s a romantic element to some of Emma’s descriptions of blindness (“Words have vivid edges and colors now, and listening to Leah is like being inside a book with glistening pages . . .”). But as the story progresses, the reality and the fear becomes palpable as Emma recounts what it’s like to lose her sight. Was this an important shift to you?
Why? I think when we make progress in our lives, it usually happens in a backwards and forwards motion, becomes a liquid process, even. When Blind opens, Emma has moved past the worst, most shrieking moments of her accident and its aftermath, partly because I didn’t want the novel to capitalize on the shocking value built into a scene like that. I didn’t put that first, and I didn’t want to build up to it and make her disaster the climax of the book. But as she’s not in the first moment of it, she has to remember it and figure out how to live with it. And sometimes remembering, which I think is work we all have to do if we’re going to create palatable narratives from the substance of our lives, can drag you back under the water of your own most difficult moments. Emma lives on a wide spectrum, and she’s trying to figure out how to think of / understand what happened to her, how to be truthful about it with herself. And both versions—the one that features her heightened ability to feel a world she used to be able to see and the one that features her gutting loss—are true stories for her. She figures out a way to live between (and with) them.

Stories of teens with mental and physical disabilities seem to be flooding the young adult industry, and Blind stands out for its tenderness and realism. Why do you think novels like this are important for teen readers? And why do you think they’re gaining in popularity?
Thank you. I don’t know about popularity, but all my books, both the adult ones and this one, are about sameness and difference. About girls and women on the peripheries of their societies or social groups or worlds. I’m interested in how we communicate with (and betray and forgive) each other, across whatever chasms divide us. Sometimes those are cultural and linguistic; sometimes they’re political and generational.

Lately, I’ve been writing some about physical difference; my most recent novel, Big Girl Small, is about a teenage little person who wants to be Judy Garland but feels forced to identify with the “munchkins” of our cultural media world. Blind is the furthest reach of that question for me, an exploration of ways we see the world, no matter who we are. I wrote it in a fit of wonder about what it would feel like to have to change, to have your perspective and identity made irrevocably different both from what it was and from those around you. And how a tough heroine (I always write with my daughters and mama and mama-in-law and an army of my best girlfriends in mind, thinking, how would we keep each other afloat, no matter what the circumstances?) can get through almost anything.

What do you admire most about Emma? If you could give her any advice, what would it be?
I love Emma, because she is a kind of forward-imagined version of my two little girls, who are 9 and 6. My favorite thing about Emma is her thoughtful ability to hold contradiction in her mind, to know that there’s a worst version and a best version, and to find her way to an angle of repose between them. I like that she’s going to be okay. That’s what I want for my girls, the fiery core that allows for navigating the world in a feisty, inspired, courageous way.

Do you know if Blind will be translated into braille?
It will be! And the audio version comes out this month.

What’s next for you?
My next YA book is a novel set in Shanghai in the 1940s, about a Jewish girl and her father who escape from Poland to China and live out the war in Japanese-occupied Shanghai, where by 1940 there were 20,000 Jewish refugees! Needless to say, it’s another look at some of the central themes that always drive and inspire me: foreignness, bravery, feminism and difficulty. Like Blind, it’s about learning to let go, even as we hang on.

We caught up with the author to talk about her blind character, coming to terms with tragedy and much more.
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Broadcast journalist and foreign correspondent Atia Abawi has spent years on the front lines of war and historical events, covering stories for outlets such as CNN and NBC. During her five-year residency in Afghanistan, Abawi became attuned to the stories of the people, their cultural traditions and the deeply rooted tensions and resulting violence that has plagued the country for so long. Her experiences inspired her first novel, The Secret Sky, which follows the budding romance of two teens from two very different tribes, who must struggle against opposition from both their families and the Taliban in order to forge a life together.

Abawi took some time to answer a few questions about this deeply moving debut, her writing process and the traditions and complexities of modern Afghanistan.

Your first trip to Afghanistan was in 2005 to work on a documentary film. How did the country you arrived in compare to the country you imagined?
It was completely different. I always figured the country would be unlike the country my parents knew because of the three decades of war that had passed. But the reality was jarring.

Landing at Kabul International Airport in 2005, you still saw Soviet-era tanks lining the side of the runway—the country looked like a junkyard of old relics. And although I had seen women in burqas (the all-covering blue fabric) on television, seeing it in person rattled me a little because I was hit with the realization that this isn’t the same city, culture and people my parents told me about. It’s not that burqas were uncommon in the past, they just weren’t as prevalent. And in the 1970s it was normal to see a woman in a burqa and a woman in a miniskirt walking down the same street.

Thirty years of fighting and bloody rivalries changed the whole dynamic of existence in Kabul and the rest of the country. My parents would be considered foreigners in this new Afghanistan, even though it was the country they were born and raised in. It honestly seemed that time had stopped in 1978 and that the country just reversed course with every passing year. I had to acquaint myself with this new country, just as I did with other countries I would travel to—ones I didn’t have a cultural connection to.

"I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t worried about the reactions—particularly from Afghans."

As a longtime journalist for CNN and NBC, what inspired you to write fiction, specifically a novel aimed at teens?
It was always a dream of mine to write a novel. But the longer I worked in news and reported on the grim everyday realities of war, I felt that dream fading away. I noticed I was losing the imagination and color I once had.

In news, you can’t use your imagination; you have to report on the facts—share the truth, not fantasy. And you are not often given the opportunity to share the hopeful stories—and there are hopeful stories, even in wartime—but tragedy always triumphs.

Because of a 2009 New York Times article my editor Jill Santopolo and publisher Michael Green had read on teenagers who fell in love in Afghanistan, they were looking for an author to write a YA novel about Afghan teens in a similar situation and had reached out to a friend of mine, who’d reached out to a group of us living in the country. During my time in Afghanistan, I’d met young Afghans who’d fallen in love and had tried to fight to stay together, so was able to bring my own experiences to the initial idea. But truly, this dream came true because of Michael and Jill—and I’ll forever be grateful to them for letting me bring some color back into my writing.

What were some of your favorite books during your own teenage years?
When I was in school I loved going to the school library and finding old books and checking them out. At one point I was reading a lot of books written a century before or based in other parts of the world. I loved how it would take me to another place I had never been before.

I also loved the Fear Street collection by R.L. Stine when I was younger, and of course the Harry Potter series.

Fatima and Samiullah are met with shocking amounts of violence, often from their own family members, for professing their love for one another. Why did you feel it was important not to censor or shy away from this common reality?
I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t worried about the reactions—particularly from Afghans.

I never wanted to censor out the darkness, but Afghans are very proud people and to share the flaws of the country and society is sometimes seen as shaming them.

But I figured the truth and realities on the ground needed to be shared. As a journalist, I have covered heartbreaking story after heartbreaking story in Afghanistan. I never wanted to sweep these realities under the rug. It would have been a disservice to those suffering and also to those working hard to make a change.

What do you hope American readers take away from this story?
I hope the reader will understand the humanity that lives amongst the horror in Afghanistan. The majority of the Afghan people want to live peaceful and happy lives; they don’t want war, they don’t want rivalries, they want change for the betterment of their families and society. But it is hard for them because of the everyday challenges they face in their lives—obstacles that we can’t even imagine having to deal with.

What was the most important lesson you learned during your time in Afghanistan?
Even in the worst of times, there is still hope. And sometimes that all you need.

You lived in Afghanistan for nearly five years. What were some of the things you loved the most about the land and the culture that are often overshadowed by war and unrest?
The beauty. The undeniable monstrosities of war have overshadowed the unimaginable beauty that remains there—the beauty of the land and the beauty of the people.

It is true that many people have been hardened by decades of brutality and war, but so many more still have these warm and inviting hearts, and they are proud of the little that they may have—and no matter how little they have, they will always share it with you. I’ve met some of the most generous and kind people there.

And the land . . . wow . . . I’ve seen landscapes that leave you in awe of the beauty the world offers.

What are you working on next?
I kind of want to step outside of the box for a short while and work on an Afghan cookbook with my mother. She’s honestly the best cook I know, and I have noticed I keep eating but never learning. I want to spend some time with her just logging her recipes, whether it is just for our family or to share with the world. I truly believe it is something that needs to be remembered. It especially hit me after years of living in modern-day Afghanistan that the cuisine has also been affected by the wars and poverty, and I’m afraid the generation of food that I grew up with will slowly fade.

 

Author photo by Conor Powell.

Broadcast journalist and foreign correspondent Atia Abawi has spent years on the front lines of war and historical events, covering stories for outlets such as CNN and NBC. During her five-year residency in Afghanistan, Abawi became attuned to the stories of the people, their cultural traditions and the deeply rooted tensions and resulting violence that has plagued the country for so long. Her experiences inspired her first novel, The Secret Sky, which follows the budding romance of two teens from two very different tribes, who must struggle against opposition from both their families and the Taliban in order to forge a life together.

From the brilliantly bizarre mind of A.S. King comes a haunting look at a bleak future—not only for teenager Glory O’Brien, but for all women.

Glory is having a rough senior year. High school graduation is nigh and, unlike her self-assured, college-bound peers, she’s uncertain about what’s next. Actually, she wonders if there will even be a next, because the sad legacy of her mother’s suicide 13 years ago still weighs so heavily upon her.

Then there’s her longtime friend Ellie, whose frenemy tendencies have been tolerable—but lately, Glory’s been thinking their relationship is no longer worthwhile.

Even more ominous are the visions Glory and Ellie begin having after a strange, fateful night. After ingesting the remains of a dead bat, the girls start to receive “transmissions” from other people’s past or future across infinite generations. Glory’s visions are harbingers of a second Civil War that brings with it violence, misogyny, boundless danger and sorrow.

So, yeah . . . the teen protagonist of Glory O’Brien’s History of the Future has a lot going on. King tells Glory’s complicated story with skill and grace, via her trademark method of melding reality with the otherworldly—a sort of matter-of-fact magical realism. For example, when the transmissions begin, the characters are stunned and confused, but accepting. Their jarring visual interludes are woven right into the narrative. (No reason to slow down for marveling and wondering; there’s a story to be told!)

That mix of magic and mundane, intellectual and fantastical, has long worked for King. Her first novel, The Dust of 100 Dogs, was a 2009 ALA Best Book for Young Adults; Please Ignore Vera Dietz was a 2011 Printz Honor book; and Ask the Passengers won the 2013 L.A. Times Book Prize and was a Lambda Award finalist.

Glory O’Brien’s History of the Future is King’s sixth YA novel, and it’s a story that’s close to her not-one-for-following-the-traditional-life-path heart. “We put so much pressure on 16-year-olds—What do you want to do? Where do you want to go?” King says. “That goes with Glory, who feels like she’s not allowed to be lost anymore.”

The author can relate: “High school wasn’t for me. Traditional college was also not for me. Art school I excelled at, and that was great.” Also, the Pennsylvania native and her Irish husband lived for a decade in Tipperary, Ireland, renovating a decrepit farmhouse, living self-sufficiently and raising chickens. She also taught adult literacy and wrote, wrote, wrote.

“When we moved back [to Pennsylvania in 2005], I had seven or eight novels under my belt,” King says. “I didn’t know anything about publishing, which was fine. It meant I got to grow as a writer without caring about getting published.”

Her growth as a writer began long before, though. King kept journals as a child, and in college at the Art Institute of Philadelphia, where she studied photography and archival printing, “I secretly wrote little essays about the pictures I took. . . . No one ever saw them. I was always a closet writer.”

Just as King emerged from her writerly cocoon (though she still favors “an office where I can close the door and do whatever I want with my brain”), Glory’s growing awareness—of her parents’ past, her own talents, the near and far future—is a transformation that begins in her late mother’s closet-like darkroom, where she sifts through photos, journals and other flotsam and jetsam of a creative, troubled mind.

Glory’s nerve grows, too, and she faces the transmissions head-on by creating a History of the Future that warns others about the coming war. The catalyst? A loophole in the future Fair Pay Act: If states make it illegal for women to work, they can forgo equal pay. The subsequent Family Protection Act sparks ever-worsening misogyny. Women and girls suffer immensely, and citizens start fighting back.

While extreme, it’s a future that doesn’t sound entirely preposterous, with current social media campaigns of young women proclaiming “We don’t need feminism” and the proliferation of so-called men’s rights groups. King says, “Being on the farm and out of touch for so long in Ireland, I wasn’t here [in the U.S.] for the whole reversal of what a feminist was. I was confused to come back and hear the word being used for other things . . . like someone changed the word while I was gone.”

She goes on, “It’s also just the culture: I have two girls, and it’s hard to navigate anything from Internet to TV to ads without constantly seeing women being objectified.”

Thanks to her parents, King grew up in a household where gender stereotypes were not promoted nor enforced. “Chores had to get done, so I might be the one up in a tree sawing off a mimosa limb, and I collected the trash . . . whereas in a lot of houses those were only boys’ jobs. That was strange to me, because the only boy around was my dad, and he had other stuff to do.”

Young people must be fearless in standing up for themselves, whether against a frenemy or a discriminatory social norm. 

Those values are integral to Glory O’Brien’s History of the Future, as is the notion that asking questions, while sometimes scary, is worthwhile. Young people must be fearless in standing up for themselves, whether against a frenemy or a discriminatory social norm. “The bottom line is, equal rights are important,” King says. “I don’t think it’s politics, I just think everybody’s equal.”

She adds, “When it comes to feminism, there’s still a simple definition. . . . I’ll look in my old high school dictionary. . . . ‘The advocacy of political, social and economic equivalency of men and women.’ I don’t see a problem with that, and I don’t see why anyone else would.”

Put simply, she says with a laugh, “The world is full of assholes. What are you doing to make sure you’re not one of them? In a way, that’s what every book [I’ve written] is about. It’s a call to arms!”

 

This article was originally published in the October 2014 issue of BookPage. Download the entire issue for the Kindle or Nook.

From the brilliantly bizarre mind of A.S. King comes a haunting look at a bleak future—not only for teenager Glory O’Brien, but for all women.
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Featuring excerpts from early drafts, movie stills and behind-the-scenes photographs, early illustrations and so much more, Inside Charlie’s Chocolate Factory is like a wondrous boat ride down that chocolate river, but with journalist Lucy Mangan at the helm. We spoke with Mangan via email about the beloved classic, its lasting impact, candy and (naturally) squirrels.

Looking back 50 years, what do you think is Charlie and the Chocolate Factorys greatest contribution to our culture and to childrens literature?
It’s made contributions to the language—a “Golden Ticket” now describes anyone who gets an all-access pass to anything, and “a bit of a Willy Wonka” describes anyone who is crazily innovative and inventive—and it seems to be almost infinitely adaptable. It’s been made into two films, an opera, stage plays, a musical—and now the 1971 film is used a lot for Internet jokes, gifs and memes. Wonka/Wilder’s mercurial nature lends itself to them very well—all his expressions just seem to cry out for captioning!

In terms of children’s literature, I think Dahl showed that you could break with tradition—and that was something he learned on the job, so to speak, because his first (surviving) draft is a relatively formulaic story about Charlie accidentally ending up at Wonka’s house one night, foiling a burglary there and being rewarded with a sweet shop of his own. [You can] let your imagination run wild, and if you did it with enough verve and gusto and confidence, and took your readers with you into a magical world that had its own mad, interior logic, they would follow delightedly wherever you went.

Of all the different ways the book has been honored this year, none has brought so as much attention (and negative attention, at that) than the new Penguin Modern Classics book cover. What is your take on this cover, and what do you think Dahl himself would have thought of it?
I’m not sure how Roald Dahl would have felt, but as a writer who first made his name writing fabulously sinister short stories for adults he might have been sympathetic to the designers’ intentions. Maybe he would have loved the evocation of his other work—the merging of his two writing worlds? I don’t know.

Which is your favorite movie adaptation?
The 1971 movie is my favourite—although I feel bad for saying that, because Dahl hated it. He thought it was sentimental—especially the ending—and that Gene Wilder was completely wrong for the part. (“He played it for subtle, adult laughs,” Dahl said.) He had wanted Spike Milligan or Peter Sellars for the part, who were more genuine eccentrics in real life. But he had a very bad experience trying to write the script for the film (which was not really his forte), so I think that probably coloured his view of it. I think it captures the anarchic, freewheeling spirit of the book very beautifully and in that way is much more faithful to the book than Tim Burton’s careful, polished retelling of the story in his 2005 film.

I couldnt believe that the squirrels in Tim Burtons movie adaptation werent computer animated, but were real-life squirrels! What most surprised you when you were researching this book?
I think there was some CGI used with the squirrels, but they certainly had real ones for a lot of it. Mel Stuart in his film in 1971 was defeated by the squirrel scene—he had to change that room into one in which geese laid golden eggs—but by 2005 technology had caught up with Dahl!

I think I was—idiotically—most surprised to see how many drafts he had done. I somehow had always assumed that it had sprung forth fully formed! But there are five surviving drafts, and it’s clear that he destroyed at least one other.

But I think maybe we all do that with books in childhood, assume that they came easily and perfectly, and that they’re just there, for our delectation and delight. But I still think it even now—I subconsciously, or even consciously, assume that every article or book I read just emerged like that, even though I know from my own experience as a journalist and author and from that of friends similarly employed, that it doesn’t happen like that for anyone.

Were there any plot points from the earlier Charlie drafts that you wish had held over for the final product? Which ones? Why or why not?
I don’t think I wish he’d kept any of the earlier stuff—he really did improve the story each time he rewrote it—except some of the other children’s names, Herpes Trout being a particular favourite of mine.

Although I do love the character of Miranda Mary Piker. (“How could anybody like her? / Such a rude and disobedient little kid,” sing the Oompa Loompas.) She’s one of the original 10 characters Dahl wrote in his first draft, the insufferable child of progressive parents who believe in self-expression instead of manners and discipline. When asked if the sugar daffodils she has picked are for her mother, she says “No! I’m to gobble them up all by myself!” “You see,” responds her mother delightedly, “what an interesting child she is!”

You can practically hear the howl of rage and pain from a writer born in 1916 and now writing in the early-mid ’60s as hippies begin to wreck everything. . . . She made it to the penultimate draft, which makes me think Dahl was probably quite fond of her, too.

If you could have a lifetime supply of any kind of Wonka candy, which would you choose?
Whipplescrumptious Fudgemallow Delight bars. Definitely. No question. Nestle actually produced a version to accompany the release of the 2005 film, and it was almost as delicious as in imagination. How often does reality live up to the hype like that? And of course they withdrew it a few months later, before I’d even had a chance to stockpile. I was—I am—bereft.

Sweets are no longer the precious treasures they once were, and now its much easier for kids to get their hands on candy than on healthy, wholesome nutrients. Do you think the next generation of young readers will continue to be drawn to Charlie? Why or why not?
I think so. I think the wit, the dizzying pace, the appeal of extreme vice and extreme virtue, the dazzling nature of Wonka and the “naughtiness” of the whole thing will appeal forever, just as it does in older, more traditional fairy tales—which is what, in many ways, Charlie is. The chocolate and the sweets are the icing on the cake—if you’ll pardon the joke, though you probably shouldn’t—and I think children have a basically endless appetite for them actually and metaphorically, so that will always delight, too. Though I agree that the changes in children’s dietary upbringing in the last 50 mean they’ve probably lost a slight edge since the book was first published (which, in the U.K. of course, was in a country that still vividly remembered wartime and postwar rationing).


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In the dusty, crowded streets of Kolkata, two monkey species struggle for dominance and power. It’s rhesus versus langur in Richard Kurti’s Planet of the Apes-eque debut novel, Monkey Wars. Political stakes are high, blood is spilled, morality becomes hazy and a forbidden romance ignites in this smart, fast-paced story. BookPage contacted Kurti to talk about the inspiration behind his debut, his career as a screenwriter, the darker side of teen lit and more.

What was the inspiration for this unique story?
No one can choose their parents or which community they’re born into, but what if you happen to be born into evil? What if accident of birth puts you in the heart of a society built on the oppression of others, but one which also gives you huge privileges, so there is no incentive to question or rebel?

Ever since I was a teenager, I’ve wanted to write about this dramatic problem, but when I thought about placing the story in a particular society, the specific issues of that situation always seemed to overshadow the bigger philosophical problem. By complete accident I heard about a real war that broke out on the streets of Indian cities between rival monkey troops. Immediately I realized that by going back up the evolutionary tree I could write about all human societies by writing about none.

What kind of research did you do for this novel?
Huge amounts. I read books about monkeys and the politics of tyranny, and watched TV documentaries about India and animal behavior; I spent many hours online doing picture research and studying maps of Kolkata; I even downloaded Pentagon documents about military strategy and guerrilla warfare! I visited Gibraltar to see the wild apes, and of course went to different zoos . . . but the one place I didn’t get to was India (see next question).

Have you ever traveled to Kolkata, India? What is it about India that inspired you to set your novel there?
I fully intended to visit India to complete my research, but that turned out to be more complicated than I’d thought.

My first idea was to write a rough draft and then go to Kolkata, as that way I’d know exactly what I was looking for. By the end of the first draft, though, I realized the big things that needed to be sorted in the manuscript were about plot and character, not location; so I decided to finish the second and third drafts, then do the research trip.

But by the end of draft three, I thought I might as well try and get a publisher interested before I went; no point spending all that money if I couldn’t sell the story. Then as soon as the publisher made an offer, I was plunged straight into a hectic schedule of rewrites, so there was no time to go off to India!

Cut to the present, and now I’m almost scared to go in case the reality is nothing like the story.

You have many years of experience working in television and writing screenplays. How did this influence your writing process for the novel?
Organization. That was the main influence—I mapped out the plot and arcs of the entire story before I began writing chapter one. In screenwriting I have always done this, and it’s usually a contractual stage. The producers want to know the whole story before you write it.

Going for a cinematic feel was also very important. I wanted the key beats to be played out through action sequences rather than pure introspection, and often imagined myself watching the story unfold as a movie.

If you were a character in the world of Monkey Wars, what species of monkey would you be?
A Bonnet Macaque. Even though they’re wiped out early on in the novel, they have such style and seem so at one with the world.

This story is quite brutal and violent. Why was it important to include these darker aspects in a story aimed at teens?
My son is 15, and like a lot of people his age, his life has unfolded against a background of shocking violence in the world. He saw 9/11 happen live on TV; he has seen the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq on news footage and in movies; he knows people who lost family in the terror attacks in London.

Telling a story about tyranny and the struggle to defeat it has to involve the portrayal of violent conflict, and it would have been irresponsible to gloss over the horror of what that actually means. As long as the violence isn’t exploitative, I hope it earns its place in the novel.

Why do you think young readers are especially drawn to animal-based allegory?
Maybe it’s because animals are such a universal access point. You don’t have to cut through layers of cultural difference; you can look into their eyes and immediately relate to them.

What’s next for you?
I’ve just finished the second draft of the next book. It’s a fast-paced thriller set in a cutting edge, modern world. Although on the surface it’s very different to Monkey Wars, the new book is also built around a very tricky moral problem that has no easy solution, with two teenage protagonists caught up in the very heart of the conflict.

In the dusty, crowded streets of Kolkata, two species of monkeys struggle for dominance and power. It’s rhesus versus langur in Richard Kurti’s Planet of the Apes-eque debut novel, Monkey Wars. Political stakes are high, blood is spilled, morality becomes hazy and a forbidden romance ignites in this smart, fast-paced story. BookPage contacted Kurti to talk about the inspiration behind his debut, his career as a screenwriter, the darker side of teen lit and more.

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Teacher/artist Renée Watson makes her YA debut with This Side of Home, a novel about African-American teenage sisters navigating friendships, relationships, school politics and future plans. The sisters' identities are intertwined with issues of class, race and gender, allowing Watson to explore all of these issues through their eyes.

BookPage spoke with Watson about her new book, the growing pains of gentrification and school reform, and "dealing with reality—sorting through the good and bad—trying to make sense of it all."

Your previous work includes children’s poetry (A Place Where Hurricanes Happen), a picture book (Harlem’s Little Blackbird), a middle grade novel (What Momma Left Me) and articles for educators about multiculturalism and arts education. What inspired you to branch out into YA fiction?
I’ve worked in middle and high schools for several years. The pains and joys of adolescents are moments I witness on a daily basis, so I think their stories are always with me as I write. The lives of my high school students are interesting—they are always changing. Their conflicts are more dramatic, and there’s just so much to sort through. All of this makes for good plots and complex characters so going with YA for this story made the most sense.

But besides those more practical reasons, my motivation to write young adult novels comes from a desire to get teenagers talking. I hope my books are a catalyst for youth and adults to have conversations with one another, for teachers to have a starting point to discuss difficult topics with students. Though my writing is fiction, it is definitely not for escaping reality. It is all about dealing with reality—sorting through the good and bad—trying to make sense of it all.

Maya and Nikki live in a Portland neighborhood where gentrification is rapidly changing the downtown landscape. They plan to attend a historically black women’s college, a decision that their community activist parents support. How similar are the twins’ circumstances to those of your own teenage years?
I see both Maya and Nikki in myself. I grew up in Portland, Oregon, and like Maya, I was on student council and very involved in my high school. I also had dreams of going to college (in New York) and wanted so badly to make my mother and community proud. Unlike Maya, I wasn’t totally against the changes that came to Portland. I am a lot like Nikki in that way.

I started noticing changes in my neighborhood—the same neighborhood in the book—my junior year in high school. For me, the change was not that rapid. It took about 20 years to see the fullness of gentrification in North East Portland. Gentrification was not a word I knew at 15, but I knew the feeling of not belonging. There was something about the changes that made it seem like they weren’t for the people who already lived there but for the people who were coming. Yet, even with that feeling, I still wanted to go out and enjoy these new places. So for me, I have both of their perspectives—I want the change, appreciate it even, but I don’t appreciate the push out that often comes with it.

Maya wants to pursue a career in journalism, in part because she’s “always liked asking questions, finding deeper reasons and meanings for things.” Why did you choose this particular career interest for your main character?
It seemed like a natural desire for Maya to have. At first, I thought she was a lover of music and that maybe she should pursue a music career, but the more I wrote her character, I realized that what she’s passionate about is history and connecting history to the present. She is full of questions and wonder. Journalism seemed like a good fit.

Richmond High, where Maya and Nikki are seniors, has a new principal this year. His intentions to promote academic success are good, but he’s out of touch with many of the real needs and concerns of the student body. School reform agendas similar to Principal Green’s are in the news a lot these days. What do you think are some of the pluses and minuses that school reform might offer a community like Richmond?
What I love about Principal Green is that he wants the students to be accountable to each other, he promotes unity, and is pushing students to excel outside of the stereotypes they are often rewarded for exceling in. My frustration with him is that he lacks a sincere appreciation and understanding of the community he is working in. He comes in with a savior mentality and imposes his ideas on the student body without ever asking a parent, teacher or student, “What’s working? What’s not? How can we work together?” To me, the most effective school reform agendas include input from the actual people of the community and takes into account their particular needs and traditions. Once the principal understands the community then s/he is ready to think about how different theories and educational practices might work in this particular setting. The action always has to match and be designed for a specific community. Generally programs without those considerations just won't work. 

As student council president, Maya takes a stand against replacing her school’s traditional Black History Month celebration with a diversity assembly intended to be “for everyone, not just the black students.” Why was it important for Maya’s character—or for you as an author creating her voice—for her to advocate for this point of view?
I think one of Principal Green’s mistakes is believing that black history is only relevant to African-American students. By changing the assembly, he once again makes a decision without fully understanding the importance of the tradition and not just that, but the necessity for all students—from all backgrounds—to learn about black history, which is an integral part of American history and therefore relevant for all students.

I know students like Maya who advocate for themselves and at a young age consider themselves activists. I wanted to have a main character be passionate about something other than some of the cliché things some adults think all teenagers care about. It was important for me to have Maya stand up for something she believed in—even if it didn’t get the results she wanted.

OK, this is a minor detail, especially in view of the serious issues raised in your book, but I was thrilled to find that Maya’s student council board includes not only the standard offices of President, Vice President, Secretary and Treasurer, but also the position of Historian. What does a student council historian do?
The historian is responsible for recording the events of the school year, to put on record—through photos and writings—the important things that happened so that future classes can look back and see what was going on at the school in any given year.

Can we expect a follow-up novel chronicling Maya’s next steps? Or are you working on other projects that BookPage readers might find interesting?
Right now, I’m busy traveling for the book tour. Instead of a writing project, I’m telling stories through photography. I’ll be capturing different cities and the places I call home and sharing them on Instagram. I’d love for BookPage readers to join in. All they have to do is take a photo of a place that makes their home special and post it using #ThisSideOfHome. My Instagram handle is @harlemportland, and I’d love to connect with readers and learn about the places they love.

Teacher/artist Renée Watson makes her YA debut with This Side of Home, a novel about African-American teenage sisters navigating friendships, relationships, school politics and future plans. The sisters' identities are intertwined with issues of class, race and gender, allowing Watson to explore all of these issues through their eyes.

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